di: ESL student with ASD

Christopher Duss duss.christopher at gmail.com
Thu May 25 18:59:47 PDT 2023


Dear List,

Thank you for your considerate replies and sorry for my delayed response. I
watched all the videos and am especially grateful for the introduction of
fluency and precision teaching. I have a question on the FIT/ABA use of
reinforcers. In the FIT video they use tokens, points and stickers, but I
wasn't sure what the tokens/points were eventually used for. Can anyone
elucidate? What are good starting rules for a toy/video clip/etc reinforcer
- how often to give, how long to give, how to take it back after the
allotted time?

I should have been more clear in the body of the email. The student is a
Japanese native speaker, and our school is mostly in Japanese. I am his
English teacher and have a 30 minute private lesson with him once a week.
It may be possible to get some time with him an extra couple days per week
to make a program more effective.

I also read Temple Grandin's book *The Way I See It*, which advocates for
ABA for language and the Son-Rise program for socialization. I picked up
some interesting approaches from both (they are very different/in some
cases opposite). I have had success in taking greater control of lessons by
playing board games (teaching turn taking along with language) and offering
choices (between 2 things I want him to do) and am looking forward to
trying the more structured approach.

Thanks,
Chris

On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 6:09 AM Aimee Taylor <littlegreen at ymail.com> wrote:

> I recommend watching the whole thing but at 30:55 starts the language
> details of YouTube video below. Need language builder cards aka language
> builder: picture nouns. 30 minutes is very short time but you could fit at
> least 3 modules/sessions with good instructional control. You need some
> strong reinforcers if you can’t use food aka spinning light toy or small
> clips of favorite dvd/tv or mirror or swing or whatever the reinforcers
> is/are. Small interactions with reinforcers after running three fluency
> checks slowly delivering smaller or earned reinforcer after meeting fluency
> goals. See other resources on reinforcer delivery schemes. Start with
> colors since that is immediate success hopefully.
> Strengthening Reading Comprehension Skills through Fluency Building of
> Core Language Components <https://youtu.be/zAq6POkSVRI>
>
> Strengthening Reading Comprehension Skills through Fluency Building of
> Core Language Components
>
> By Skills Developing
>
> <https://youtu.be/zAq6POkSVRI>
>
>
> Also mands are the beginning of all language that I would encourage at
> home and in all environments.
> Early Cognitive Development and Classroom Readiness
> <https://youtu.be/Au82jBUzB5M>
>
> Early Cognitive Development and Classroom Readiness
>
> By Kimberly Berens
>
> <https://youtu.be/Au82jBUzB5M>
>
>
> This topic is just so large with so little out there other than l4l aka
> language for learning but that is designed for longer sessions. I would
> recommend headsprout “mousing around” but heard that program is no longer
> available.
>
> For the math try Maloney method aka Michael Maloney Teach Your Children To
> Do Math Well. That website has under downloads for $4.95 Math Counting
> Fluency that includes  rote counting forwards and backwards as well as skip
> counting. Be careful that this is not just echoing type behavior (where
> Funnix was useful) aka the child recognizing one to one corresponding
> between naming/counting and object quantity aka manipulatives or abacus.
> The Maloney Method » Download Products
> <https://www.maloneymethod.com/download-products/>
>
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>
>
> A little more advanced - but the child isn’t getting any younger -
> Haughton Learning Center has rapid automatic naming module that might be
> useful.
> Curriculum - Haughton Learning Center
> <https://haughtonlearningcenter.com/curriculum/>
>
>
> Curriculum - Haughton Learning Center
>
> COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM MATERIALS Our Foundation Skills curriculum packages
> combine thoroughly tested materials with verified fluency aims for each
> skill, plus recommended teaching and measurement procedures. We include a
> Precision Assessment tool with
> <https://haughtonlearningcenter.com/curriculum/>
>
>
>
> Autism language
> <https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXVIomfas9CId1NN2wRbFFBC_wmKwWpB8>
>
> Autism language
>
> By Littlegreen
>
> <https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXVIomfas9CId1NN2wRbFFBC_wmKwWpB8>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Aimee Taylor, parent and knower of nothing with no expertise
>
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>
> On Friday, April 28, 2023, 2:19 PM, Christopher Duss <
> duss.christopher at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear List,
>
> I have a 4 year old student with no official diagnosis but who displays
> behavior in line with the description of children with autism - delayed
> language development, frequent tantrums, restricted areas of interest etc.
> Our school is not set up to deliver a program like the Low Performers
> Manual, but I would like to do better for him in the 30 minutes one-on-one
> lesson I have with him weekly. Currently, I follow his interest in colors
> and numbers - he can count to above 100 - but this leaves a significant
> deficit in other vocabulary and communication. I tried Funnix Math but this
> was predictably too advanced, and he mainly wanted to play with the
> buttons.
>
> I know I have an uphill struggle as I have let him control lessons for
> many weeks now, but if members of the list have recommendations for how to
> turn things around I am all ears.
>
> Also, if you have recommendations for reading on the subject of autism
> please let me know. I am looking at *Unmasking Autism* by Devon Price, *Ten
> Things Every Child with Autism Wishes You Knew* by Ellen Notbohm, and *The
> Way I See It *by Temple Grandin in case anyone has experience with these.
>
> Thanks for your insight,
> Chris
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