di: Fwd: Why doesn't error limit in Rdg Mastery 1 begin until Lesson 84?

[Don Crawford]

Great answer from Pam Beck everyone ought to see.
Basically, there ought to be a limit in everyone's mind.  Eight is
generous, and I think that's a good place to stop and say, "Hey, there's a
problem here. We need to do more teaching of the words so they can read
accurately. "

Don Crawford
(503) 298-8656
14435 SE Donatello Loop
Happy Valley, OR 97086


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Pam Beck <pamwbeck14 at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: di: Why doesn't error limit in Rdg Mastery 1 begin until
Lesson 84?
To: Don Crawford <donc1950 at gmail.com>


Hi Don,
   I work in Brownsville also with IDEA.  Look in the RMSE 1 Teacher's
Guide - p. 4, 5. There are group reading accuracy tests at L. 20, 26, 36
where the teacher is supposed to make a tally of errors on the first
reading.  If the group scores between 5-8 errors, proceed to next story,
more than 8 is a suggested repeat of the lesson.  So I usually use "no more
than 8" to know if a group is doing well in story reading.

Pam Beck

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 11:45 AM Don Crawford <donc1950 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I recently saw a Reading Mastery 1 group in the early lessons who were
> making a lot of story reading errors. Of course, most of them were not
> passing their checkouts.  However, it seemed to me that the fact that they
> were making a ton of errors in story reading (two or three per sentence for
> most readers) would indicate they should re-do the lesson until they are at
> mastery--until they can read the story without a lot of errors.  But when I
> went looking for the "Error limit" on the story I discovered it does not
> appear until Lesson 84, when they graduate to normal print.
>      Anybody know why it was done that way?  Or anybody know a good reason
> not to implement a "error limit" of 5 errors starting right away in RM 1?
> The error limit for the checkout is 3, so 5 is generous. I just think we
> should give the teacher a concrete data point for deciding they are not at
> mastery and should do the lesson over.
>
> Don Crawford
> (503) 298-8656
> 14435 SE Donatello Loop
> Happy Valley, OR 97086
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